Hello Dreambox users.
I discover that a forum search to Goliath doesn't give any result.
Since I’m a bit curious what we can expect, i start this topic. Just to have a place to discuss with interested people all the info we found on the net about Goliath.

I found:
-This on the official Dreambox website.
-The official presentation video (mkv). (youtube link)
-This on a none official blog.
-Youtube search results for Dreambox Goliath.
I'm interested in collecting as much -prefer official- info about this new Dream Multimedia device. Especially technical specifications, like video output type, audio output type.

Also when i see the new development of for example cable company settop boxes, like here in The Netherlands the "UPC Horizon", then i discover that it supports lots of newer techniques to limit user experience. I mean things like CI+ (youtube link) and HD+ (youtube link) . I really hope Dream Multimedia doesn't start with those user limitations.

So who knows more sources about the Dreambox Goliath project? I'm so curious.
I thought in this period of the year the Goliath came to the stores.

Here a great quote of the none official Dreambox blog :

Zitat

But as much as I know, I guess that the new device will not be
closed source — it probably will end up in something similar to the
current OE 2.0 image policy.
And i definetly know that Goliath will not support CI+ and any other DRM/limitation system!

If this is true, then Goliath is a GO(I want it) for me
Curious if Goliath support softcams

A bit early for source code don't you agree?
But what about audio & video outputs or codec support on hardware level. Is it ready for the 4k HD resolution, or does it support BluRay quality(4 example DTS-HD master audio). Does it have a optical drive, and if so is it a Bluray one? You know just curiosity. No need for giving info that could be a risk for say company security(keep cloners away).

Zitat von gutemine

Immmediately after Product launch

And that was planned in the 4th quarter of 2012, that is this period isn't it?

Hello Dream Multimedia, this posting is for you!

If you're starting the mass fabrication of the Goliath, then STOP!

I read an article about new development that will arrive in a few years(like 2015).
So If you really want to create a mega settopbox with the name Goliath, then my question is, does it support these new developments:

-New 3D standard : Advanced Stereo 3D (no more 2x screen split left and right on HD 1080p, but full resolution in 4k/8k without glasses)
-New DVB-s standard: DVB-S3 (very important, they say it'll start in 2015)
-New video codec for 4k & 8k : h265 HEVC (high efficiency video coding) used by DVB-S3 for the 4k resolution TV channels

I really think this is a minimum to added to the future Goliath settopbox/mediacenter/computer..
At sat position 10.0 E 11304H there are already 4 Ultra HD channels testing with 4K.

Zitat von sirdir

If you're starting the mass fabrication of the Goliath, then STOP!

You must be kidding. Who will send in 4k dvb-s3 ... whatever?
It took several years from standartisation to the first commercial broadcasters to support HD.
You can use the same arguments to *never* develop a new stb - there will always be something new coming ' somewhere down the road...

Ok, I must admit, a bit funny to say stop.
But i think you're a bit outdated in what happens these days.

Yesterday h265 is accepted by ITU :

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Geneva, 25 January 2013 – A
new video coding standard building on the PrimeTime Emmy award winning ITU-T
H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC was agreed by ITU members today.

The new codec will considerably ease the burden on global networks where, by
some estimates, video accounts for more than half of bandwidth use. The new
standard, known informally as ‘High Efficiency Video Coding’ (HEVC) will need
only half the bit rate of its predecessor,

ITU-T H.264 / MPEG-4 Part 10 ‘Advanced Video Coding’ (AVC),
which currently accounts for over 80 per cent of all web video. HEVC will
unleash a new phase of innovation in video production spanning the whole ICT
spectrum, from mobile devices through to Ultra-High Definition TV.

ITU-T’s

Study Group 16
has agreed first-stage approval (consent) of the much-anticipated standard known
formally as Recommendation ITU-T H.265 or ISO/IEC 23008-2.
It is the product of collaboration
between the ITU Video Coding Experts Group (VCEG) and the ISO/IEC Moving Picture
Experts Group (MPEG).

Dr Hamadoun I. Touré, Secretary-General, ITU: “ITU-T H.264 underpinned rapid
progression and expansion of the video ecosystem, with many adopting it to
replace their own proprietary compression codecs. The industry continues to look
to ITU and its partners as the global benchmark for video compression, and I
have no doubt that this new standard will be as effective as its predecessor in
enabling the next wave of innovation in this fast-paced industry.”

ITU-T H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC

is deployed in products and services from companies including Adobe, Apple, BBC,
BT, France Telecom, Intel, Microsoft, Motorola, Nokia, Polycom, Samsung, Sony,
Tandberg, Toshiba and others to deliver high definition video images over
broadcast television, cable TV, a variety of direct-broadcast satellite-based
television services, Blu-Ray disc formats, mobile phones, videoconferencing
tools,

digital storage media,
and Internet Protocol television (IPTV).
It remains the most deployed global video compression standard.

ITU-T H.265 / ISO/IEC 23008-2 HEVC will provide a flexible, reliable and robust
solution, future-proofed to support the next decade of video. The new standard
is designed to take account of advancing screen resolutions and is expected to
be phased in as high-end products and services outgrow the limits of current
network and display technology.

Companies including ATEME, Broadcom, Cyberlink, Ericsson, Fraunhofer HHI,
Mitsubishi and NHK have already showcased
implementations of HEVC. The new standard
includes a ‘Main’ profile that supports 8-bit 4:2:0 video, a ‘Main 10’
profile with 10-bit support, and a ‘Main Still Picture’ profile for still image
coding that employs the same coding tools as a video ‘intra’ picture.

The ITU/ISO/IEC Joint Collaborative Team on Video Coding (JCT-VC) (formerly JVT)
will continue work on a range of extensions to HEVC, including support for
12-bit video as well as 4:2:2 and 4:4:4 chroma formats. Another important
element of this work will be the progression of HEVC towards scalable video
coding. The three bodies will also work within the Joint Collaborative Team on
3D-Video (JCT-3V) on the extension of HEVC towards stereoscopic and 3D video
coding.

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Eutelsat W3A , AsiaSat 5, Amos-3, Intelsat already did successful testing with DVB-S3 :

Zitat

Company NovSatelt, specializing in optimizing bandwidth satellite links,
announced the development of innovative technology modulating - NS3,
designed to optimize the resources of satellite transponders earlier
this year,

Compared to currently broadcasting standards DVB-S and DVB-S2, the new
standard allows you to increase the throughput ability of satellite
channels in 20-55% of the transponder with a bandwidth of 36 MHz and 78%
at 72 MHz transponders, providing high-speed data transfer up to 358
Mbit / s.

Technicians NovelSat reported completion of the pre-testing of the new
standard with power satellites Eutelsat W3A , AsiaSat 5, Amos-3, as well
as some of the spacecraft constellation Intelsat.

Test results confirmed that the new standard NS3 far exceeded the
capacity DVB-S2, which is now considered to be the best solution in the
field of satellite broadcasting. NS3 also a huge plus is that it is
fully compatible with previous standards DVB-S and DVB-S2, enabling
operators to perform a smooth transition to the new technology.

NS3 is also able to provide the following benefits:

transfer of a large number of SD-, HD-and 3D-channels, and as data
transmission through the communication line and transponders that are
identical to today's energy balance.

Saving reception quality at lower SNR (signal / noise ratio), which, in
turn, allows the use of a receiving antenna with a smaller diameter.

Expansion of satellite coverage.

According to preliminary information, the completion of a cycle of
testing involving 32 broadcasters and teleports located in Europe and
the U.S.,

DVB-S-3 is now in use on several satellites in Europe,America's &
Asia as stated in the reports your normal HD receiver will be able to
receive these new broadcasts but not the 16APSK & 32APSK versions
for these you will need a professional receiver until someone
incorporates all the new satellite transmission types in a enthusiasts
receiver to find all the transmissions now in general use by SNG's.

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Mitsubishi, Broadcom, Cyberlink, Ericsson en Fraunhofer HHI already implemented h265 in their hardware. So why not DMM Goliath? Really It seems logical that they start with DVB-S3 in 2015. (over 2 years already)
I think DReamMultimedia can make a big step forward to the other Enigma2 receiver builders and clones by supporting DVB-S3 (16APSK & 32APSK included) and h265.

Thanks for your point of view. It makes sense.

Ok here the link of h265 at itu .

I couldn't find the dvb-s3 quote source, but here another DVB-S3link (16apsk & 32apsk) .

Dr. Dish has a video on youtube about 'ANGA COM 2014'.
Click here to view the video . AT 16min:20sec you see the Enigma2 manufactorers.

My question is: where is the Dreambox Goliath?
Or should i ask: where is Dream Multimedia?