I did perform some more tests in combination with different CAMs:
1) Official Dream Multimedia dccam from 26-3-2007 image does NOT work;
[Moderator] The only relevant fact is, that you still have Problems with dccamd and bad signal.
You might post the other stuff in another Board but not here. [/Moderator]
When I revert to the 17-5-2007 drivers all of the above do work.

Both the 17-5-2007 and the 26-8-2007 (the fix) drivers do not perform very well in combination with DVB-T radio stations. Some stations stop playing after a few seconds. This problem is less prevalent in the 17-5-2007 drivers then in the 26-8-2007 (the fix) drivers.

tmbinc. I am a freight there is some more work to do. I fully understand that it is difficult tackle this bug. Thanks for the effort done until now.

Regards, Frits

Yes, I understand your possition. The only thing that you support is the official Dream Multimedia CAM in combination with the free porno card shipped with the Dreambox.

I found some time to test this as well. And this combination does not work either.

Like most users I do not use the Dreambox to view porno. Instead I use it with a KPN Digitenne subscribtion to watch decent channels. To do that one has to replace the Dream Multimedia CAM with a ..... CAM (or buy additional hardware). It has already been indicated before that all CAMs were equally effected by this bug. So, I think it was a fair assumption that if you would have solved the bug for your own CAM, it would have been solved for all CAMs.

Regards, Frits

My first impression is that the fixed drivers do not work in combination with the .... CAM. I did not try in combination with the orriginal Dream Multimedia CAM. I'll wait for the experience of others. In the mean time I went back to the 17-5-2007 drivers.

Regards, Frits

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Originally posted by murray
ist es nicht so, dass mit dem neuesten Original-Image das Problem noch gar nicht da ist.

Sondern nur mit neueren CVS-Images

No, the latest official image from 26-3-2007 has the bug (see mpg file in my previous post). CSV from 16-6-2007 does have it as well.

The only way to get a bug free image is to change the drivers with the drivers from 17-5-2007. However, people are reporting other bugs in these drivers and they have never been released officially.

Currently your best available bet are the 17-5-2007 drivers. With the problem disappeared after installing these drivers (delete old drivers, do not rename!).

Regards, Frits

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Originally posted by Reichi
Dieses Problem tritt nur unter relativ seltenen Umständen auf, es ist nicht so, dass jetzt jeder der ne Dreambox hat ständig damit zu Kämpfen hat.
Bei gutem Signal gibt es keinerlei Probleme.
Man arbeitet wie gesagt ständig daran das Problem zu beseitigen, es ist nur eben nicht so ganz einfach.

Bei schwachem Signal gibt es ständig Probleme. Und das ist inherhalb von Minuten zu reproduzieren. Siehe http://www.fwiarda.com/etc/dreambox/crash.mpg . Nicht allen haben starkes Signal.

Mit die Treiber von 17.5.2007 gibt es diesem Bug nicht (aber anderen Bugs). Wann man die CAM völlig abschaltet gibt es diesem Bug auch nicht (aber dann braucht man einen treueren CI Module und kann man nur eine Karte benutzen).

Mit diese Informationen muss es doch nicht zu schwer sein um diesem Bug genau zu lokalisieren und zo beheben. Mach mall ein diff zwischen die Treiber von 17.5.2007 und die von 26.3.2007 und konzentriere auf alles was mit dem CAM und Krypto zu tun hat.

Ich habe mehrmalls Hilfe angeboten, aber Dream Multimedia hat nie darauf reagiert.

M.f.g., Frits Wiarda
Handy 00-31-6-53493134

I discovered that renaming /lib/modules/2.6.12.6/extra into /lib/modules/2.6.12.6/extra.old , before copying the 17-5-2007 drivers to /lib/modules/2.6.12.6/extra , makes that the old drivers are still used.

I am very disappointed about the support from Dream Multimedia with respect to this bug. The following statement is absolutely misleading.

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Originally posted by Ghost in 1st thread
DIe Leute die das letzte offizielle Image verwenden, sollten das Problem also gar nicht haben.

I used the official image from 26-3-2007 from the moment I bought my Dreambox, and had the bug very often.

The following statement seems to be true.

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Originally posted by Ghost in 1st thread
Ich würde empfehlen solange erstmal ältere Treiber zu verwenden. Laut meinen Informationen soll es mit den Treibern von 20070517 wohl dieses Problem nicht geben.

However, it would have been good if Dream Multimedia would have provided an instruction how to install these drivers, including a warning that renaming the directory with the old drivers into e.g. extra.old is not sufficient to get rid of them.

Given the impact of the bug I think Dream Multimedia should release a new image with these 17-5-2007 drivers included.

Regards, Frits

Is there an example of a skeleton for a plugin? With a skeleton I mean a plugin which does do nothing. It shall be used to fill in your own code, to make it do something.

Regards, Frits

Can Dream Multimedia give an indication how long we still have to wait? If we know how long we have to wait the waiting is less annoying.

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Originally posted by Ghost in 1st thread
Ich würde empfehlen solange erstmal ältere Treiber zu verwenden. Laut meinen Informationen soll es mit den Treibern von 20070517 wohl dieses Problem nicht geben.

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DIe Leute die das letzte offizielle Image verwenden, sollten das Problem also gar nicht haben.

I am also worrying a little that Dream Multimedia thinks the drivers form 2007.05.17 or the image from 2007.03.26 are a solution. With this recommended image I still have the problem.

Regards, Frits

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wir sind da nach wie vor am suchen des Problems.. nur so einfach ist das nicht. Gerade weil es sich eher schlecht und unregelmässig reproduzieren lässt.

I can reproduce it within minutes. See http://www.fwiarda.com/etc/dreambox/crash.mpg .
I use DVB-T in an area with poor coverage. If your developers are having problems reproducing it I am willing to help. I offered already before that they can call me at 00-31-6-53493134.

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DIe Leute die das letzte offizielle Image verwenden, sollten das Problem also gar nicht haben.

I use the latest image (release 2.2 from 26.03.2007) and I have the problem continuesly.

Regards, Frits

That works for me as well. However, isn't this the enigma1 code instead of the enigma2 code?

If I do the same for dreamboxupdate.com I get again a password prompt.

test@server:~/tuxbox/apps/tuxbox/enigma $ cvs -d :ext:dreamboxupdate.com:/cvs/tuxbox co .
Password:
Password:


Password:
Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive).
cvs [checkout aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any)
test@server:~/tuxbox/apps/tuxbox/enigma $

Regards, Frits Wiarda

It would be great if it was possible to see the bouquet entry number in the InfoBar while zapping. Unlike enigma1, engima2 displays only the station name.

Showing the entry numbers while zapping makes it much easier to learn that e.g. ARD is 51 and ZDF is 52, etc.

I think it is a small change to ShowInfoBar.py . I tried to change something myself, but I now to little about python to fully understand the code.

Regards, Frits

That does not work.

test@server:~/dreambox $ export CVS_RSH=ssh
test@server:~/dreambox $ cvs -d anoncvs@http://dreamboxupdate.com:/cvs/tuxbox -z3 co -P .
ssh: http: Name or service not known
cvs [checkout aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any)
test@server:~/dreambox $

I tried it without the http:// as well. That seems to work, but it requires a password that I do not know.

test@server:~/dreambox $ export CVS_RSH=ssh
test@server:~/dreambox $ cvs -d anoncvs@dreamboxupdate.com:/cvs/tuxbox -z3 co -P .
Password:
Password:
Password:
Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive).
cvs [checkout aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any)
test@server:~/dreambox $

Regards, Frits

What commands do I need to download the latest source for the Dreambox 7025.

I am using Fedora Core 6, and logged in as an regular user. I would like to download the complete source into ~/dreambox .

Regards, Frits

I have made an attempt to write a script that analyses the enigma2 log output. If the bug appears this script should reboot the Dreambox.

However, until now I have not found any unique criterion in the log output to recognize the bug. Has anybody an idea? Has Dream Multimedia a test version that generates more log output?

Regards, Frits

Data is flushed to disk if you exit Enigma. The latest images have an menu option to restart Enigma, which effectively flushes data to disk. Restarting via the menu also flushes data to disk.

Regards, Frits

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Originally posted by digi_casi
you have to distinguish between iptv and dvb-ip

Under IP TV I understand television over IP, whatever the standard is. In this short discussion we have identified two mature standards:
1) Windows Media Player;
2) ETSI DVB-IP.

Perhaps one should develop separate virtual NIM for 1 and 2. I think for 1 the most content is available. On the other hand I think 2 is the easier to build.

Apart from the IP TV standard to use, what do you think about the concept of a virtual NIM, that behaves towards the upper layers (the application) of the Dreambox a just another NIM like the DVB-S/T/C NIMs?

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Originally posted by digi_casi
but how do you know that they are dvb-ip????
i doubt it... actually

No, they are the Microsoft variant of IP TV.

My point is that there is plenty of TV content available on the internet. For a Dreambox user it would be great if that would be available on the Dreambox.

I think we need just a virtual NIM that maps the RTP streams from the internet onto DVB MPEG transport streams. This way, all application software in the Dreambox would not even be aware that the content comes from the internet instead of from the satellite. It would function exactly as it would be if the content comes from the satellite. Instead of a file satellites.xml defining the satellite transponders this NIM would read a file iptv.xml defining URLs.

I do not claim that this is something you build in a few weekends, but I am sure it is technically feasable. The reason to start this thread is to get input so the idea becomes more mature. Hopefully somewhere in the future enough people get enthusiast about it so it will be build.

Regards, Frits

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Originally posted by digi_casi
so, which stations broadcast in dvb-ip and don't have drm?

On http://www.watchonbroadband.com/ you find a large list of free IP TV stations.

It would be great if I could just place some of them in my Dreambox bouquet list and watch them as a regular TV station while laying on the couch.

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Originally posted by digi_casi
so, which stations broadcast in dvb-ip and don't have drm?

http://www.garnierstreamingmedia.com/asx/tvgelderland.asp

http://www.at5.nl/speler_stream.asp (Link works only in IE, not in Firefox.)

http://www.nostalgienet.nl/livetv.php# (The embedded object is a Windows Media Player object.)

http://www.museumtv.nl/player.aspx (I am unsure what type the embedded object is.)

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Originally posted by digi_casi
windows mediaplayer supports dvb-ip????

No, of cause there are two standards as always. Microsoft, and the rest of the world.