Please provide some information about the hard- and software used.

Box type: B7025
GUI (enigma1/enigma2): enigma2
Firmware version:latest

your question: I have asked this question in different ways several times and nobody from the staff has provided an answer. How can I find out during a scan which tansponder is being scanned? DB has a very basic interface where it dosplays a text at the top that scanning is in progress and then number of found services at the bottom. This makes the process of trouble shooting extremly difficult. We need a way to know which tansponders are being scanned and which one is on the focus at the moment. A new interface is needed where the transponder number is displayed and also a signal meter so that the user can verify whether or not the DB is seeing any signal from theat TP. Currently, we are flying blind <Grrrrrrrrrr>
I have been troubleshooting a scanning problem for several days and not getting any where. I can scan a statellite with receiver A , B and C and verify that the satellite has almost 200 channels there. I scan the same satellite with my "state of the art DB7025" and it does not find more than ~60 ch which is pissing me off <Grrrrr>
I have verified the satellites.xml file and it has all the transponders that are on that satellite. So, why the heck is DB not seeing those other channels?(

jenscz,

Thank you. I'll do this tonite.
So, are you suggesting that I use USLAS instead of the DISeqC? If yes, how do I specify whioch satellites for the DB to scan. I have seen a multi satellite setup, but then I'd need to go to the tuner setup and you are saying that it will destroy my previous setup, correct?

Please provide some information about the hard- and software used.

Box type: DB7025
GUI (enigma1/enigma2): enigma2
Firmware version: latest

your question: Does anybody have a QPH-031 LNB going through a DISEqC switch and through a SG2100 motor down to the receiver? How did you setup your DB? I have tried every avaialble option there and none of them gets the motor to work. I have other rcvrs here that zip from sat to sat and track them fine. So, I am sure the motor is working and tracks the belt fine. But what is the trick to get the DB to understand the setup?

The motorized setup interface needs some serious revamping. It is not logical at all!?!?

In one place under the simple setup, when you switch the diseqc mode to positioner, which I am guessing is referring to a motor, it asks for lat and long values. in my case, my long. is 121 which needs three digits before the decimal mark. DB by default has only 2 digits there and there is no way to edit the value and move the decimal to the third digit !?!?!? so my long comes as 12.1 instead of 121????
I thought that this device was built to be used globaly?!?!?!?!?

Please provide some information about the hard- and software used.

Box type:7025
GUI (enigma1/enigma2): latest image
Firmware version: latest

your question: I am scanning an FTA satellite here in US, namely the IA5 @ 97W. according to lyngsat, this bird should have close to two hundered channels which I can verify with my other rcvrs (much much cheaper I may add!!). DB7025 only comes back with 60 channels. I have played with the switches in the satellites.xml file and when I changed the 1=network scan to 0, it came back with 75 channels, but still missing many. I have checked the satellites.xml file and it does have every single transponder there with SR, FEC, ETC. I am running out of options here. What is wrong?

I tried the dream keyboard with DB7025 and it did not respond to anything from the keyboard. Does the keyboard work with DB7025?

[A week later] can we get a response from the DMM team on this? Does it work or not?

TheDOC,

Sure, although it doesn't make sense, I'll try it.

The reason that I am saying it doesn't make sense is bacause it is under the simple setting. simple means very straight forward and nothing else. I'd expect t ofind it under the advanced setting and I was hoping to find a motor setup under advanced. I hope you see the point here. As a user, I am confused.

So, what should I be looking for with simple setting?

I don't think the files were locked or I could not over write them. But, I'll try the approach taht you have suggested tonight.

Ok, it looks like I spent a truck load of money and bought myself a heart attack box!

QA report:

Case 1:
1) Flash the box
2) reboot it and it comes up in PAL mode. Thank you very much DB for assuming that the whole world is using PAL
3) telent to the box and "echo ntsc > /proc/stb/videomode"
4) go through the setup wizrd process but only setup the rcvr A with simple setup. Also go to AV settings and save the NTSC video mode.
5) upload the new satellite.xml file to /etc and restart (I have not found another way to reload this file yet without restarting)
6)it works and can scan a satellite, but deosn't find all the transponders and channels
but at least it is working

Case 2:
1) Flash the box
2) reboot it and it comes up in PAL mode. Thank you very much DB for assuming that the whole world is using PAL. Why can you not save this value to the none-volatile memory forever ?????
3) telent to the box and "echo ntsc > /proc/stb/videomode"
4) go through the setup wizrd process but this time setup the rcvr A with simple setup and since rcvr B allows you to have a motorized setup for you to select. Also go to AV settings and save the NTSC video mode.
5) upload the new satellite.xml file to /etc and restart (Why not ship the box with a global list of satellites ????????)
6) this time it comes back not only in PAL video mode, but now it is not responding to the remote and nothing works. the box is frozen !!!!!!!!!!!!

So, I am heading towards the emergency room after 3 hours of frustration on a Saturday morning <Grrrrrrr>

How did you set it up?

During the initial setup, a Wizard comes up and asks you to setup the box. When it gets to the satellite configuration, for rcvr A the user has only two options, simple and advanced. Then for the rcvr B, you can have simple, advanced, motorized, etc? What is the logic here? What if I want to connect my motor to rcvr A?
I understand that this is done to make sure that the motor only gets control signals from one rcvr, but it can easily be solved by letting the user to select it to be connected to whatever rcvr they want and once that is done, block the other rcvr from selecting it. Please!

My DB 7025 is in NTSC mode and I have picture on the RCA video out. But when I connect it to my TV using a SCART and component cable All the colors are mesed up and it does NOT work. Can someone in development look into this please?

First of all, this is not a complaint sheet, but rather requests that are intended to make a good product even better.having worked on SW and HW development for over 20 years, I am trying to voice the customeras much as I do understand the development pain(been there, done that!). So, cutting down to the chase, here is my wish list:

-Blind Scan
I would like to see a Blind Scan feature on 7025. This feature is available on several rcvrs that cost a fraction of 7025 and I have here and works just fine.

- Transponder scan: I would like to be able to point my dish to a satellite and have 7025 scan that sat and update its transponder list with the newly found values. If there are in fact any new Tx above and beyond what was already known, it is nice to have the new ones listed with a differnt color so that the user can identify them easily.

- A new motor management interface: this is a panel where the user can see the current location of the motor acquired from the motor and displayed with the signal values (strength, quality, SNR, etc) so that the user can easily decide whether or not the dish is pointing to the right direction in sky. this page needs to have functions to let the user to move the dish to West and East to zoom in on the desired satellite. A very nice feature would be to have an "Auto Move" feature where the 7025 moves the motor using the DISEqC commands to the West or East until it finds a signal . Comparing that signal to the list on known satellites, it can the nfine tune the dish and display ther found satellite on the screen. Finally a save location is very nice to make sure that the spot is saved.

- It would be very nice to restructure the way configuration is done by the Wizard. I explain this using my case. I have a dish with a QPH-031 LNB. The output of the first Linear and Circular ports go through a 2 port DISEqC switch and the the out put ofthat switch goes through the motor and finally terminates into the receiver. the Wizard needs to ask a few questions such as whether or not a dual LNB is in place? Do you have a DISeqC in place? Do you have a motor and if yes, prefeerably the known brands can be offered fro the user to select. If automatic DISEqC is implemented then it is easy to identify which LNB is one which port of the switch. In my case I have the L-port on 1 and the C-port on the 2. the nthe wizard should go to the next step which is selectingthe satellites. If the user does not have a motor, then this is easily a matter os selecting a number of satellites that correspond to the number of ports on their DISEqC (LNBs). With a motor then it becomes a little more complicated. We need to let the user select which satellites they would like to be included in the list to be scanned. Once that is done. Then the motor can be moved to the reference point and a scan can be started to the East or West and once one direction is done the dish can again be moved to the Ref. point and then scan the other side. this approach will make this process very easy and understandable.

That's it for now.

I did the same. Went directly to the web plugin and got it installed. But, still no HTTP interface

Alydar,

Thank You! This is what I have been looking for all along. I'll try it in a few hours when I get home.

I have a router on my network that is hooked up to a 12port switch which feeds my whole house. So, all of my computers including the DB are on that switch and I have no network problems and I was trying to tell every one that the network is NOT my problem. I can telnet into the box and ping the whole world from there and everything works fine. It is just the flashing part that still has glitches and does not do exactly as you'd expect.

I agree with your statement about the unfinnished product. This product has still a long ways to go, even the documetnation which I hope to be available soon.
I am also looking forward to features such as blind scan, or auto diseqc detection or a nice motor control and the possibility to connect to sites such as "www.lyngsat.se" and update the satellite/transponder list as that site is extremly up-2-date.

You know, this is one of those love and hate relationships, where I love the DB when its working and it frustrates the heck out of me when I stumble over stupid things that don't work Come one guys on the dream development team, show us some spirit and make us proud We want a kick a$$ product.

Thanks again Alydar!

UPDATE: Alydar, it worked like a German clockwork:D Thank You! A suggestion to the DB team is to update the documentation to reflect these things. My source of confusion was removing the cable and plugging in a cross over cable with the laptop. DON'T need this. Just leave the box hooked up to the network and boot it pressing the down button. That's it. Thanks again!

Hi Pepe,

Thanks, will try i tonite (I know you guys in Europe are close to it, but we have to wait a few more hours b4 we can get home to beer and dreams

So, is a blaind scan on the road map for development?

So no blind scan? Is it on the roadmap?

How about a Transponder scan?

A couple of questions regarding the scanning:

1) How do you perform a Transponder scanning of a known satellite?
2) How do you perform a blind scan?

And finally, where can I find the user manual for the DB7025? There was a little booklet that came with my unit but no user manual.

Jeanscs,

Thanks for the info. Again, I have no IP problem as I have a router that is managing my network. the subnet mask that you have mentioned is fine and will work. Again, I can telnet to the DB from my PC or any other PC on my network. That is the DHCP is working and provides the DB an IP address and that is NOT the problem. The problem is the flashing process.
So if I follow the web flashing process, it comes up with:

169.254.245.245
====STOP====

Now I take a laptop with crossover cable and assign the IP of 169.254.245.235 to it and try to browse to the IP: 169.254.245.245 which is the DB. it comes back with a blank page can not be displayed, bla bla bla error. It is not loading

Then I am left with only one option which is serial port which is painful

Is there a "release note" or "what's new" with the image so that we know what the delta is between the images? This makes the trouble shooting process easier, if we know what changes have been made to the code.

Jenscs,

I have done that and it comes up with :

169.254.???.245 (I don't remember the ???, I am at work right now)
======STOP======

And when I try the web approach or try the network approach with a crossover cable, none of them works. Last night , I tried the serial cable method and after 15-20 attempts, it finaly went ahead and flashed the DB. This is a painful approach moving data at 115kbps and an image that is almost 22MB.

Question: Does this new image have a web server running on the DB or not? this means can I browse to the DB from any computer on the network Assuming that the network is 192.168.1.x, the DB has the IP address of 192.168.1.200. I can ping it, telnet to it, ftp to it. But should I be able to point a browser to it? as far as I can tell, even with the new image, there is no web server running there. Can someone from the development respond?